Beth Sarim

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  WTS checklist for Elders to destroy evidence?

  by DarioKehl in

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  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3t1yp7/marc_and_cora_posted_on_utube/.

  hot off the presses from exjw reddit earlier today.

  massive leak in uk.. if true, this is big (and very, very disturbing)..

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  Beth Sarim

  Hmm. If this is true, it is very disturbing. Did you know that destroying evidence which is admissible in court is a criminal offense.

  If elders are knowingly destroying evidence which is admissible as evidence they are technically committing a criminal offense. They are just as indictable for destroying evidence.

  ;We all must be ready to obey instructions we may receive whether they seem strategic from a human standpoint or not;

  That statement I guess applies to EVERYTHING, even going above the law, to obey instructions that trump the Law of the Courts, the REAL Judicial system. WOW!!!
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  2015 Worldwide Memorial Attendance: Another Sign of Decline

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw memorial attendance last year - 2014 - was about 50,000 shy of 20 million.

  some posters on this forum had confidently predicted before the 2014 memorial that attendance would hit more than 20 milion.

  they were wrong.. now, in 2015, and the memorial falling on a weekend night (where attendance is historically much higher), attendance has not only failed to top 20 milion but has declined by more than 87,000 in attendance over 2014:.

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  Beth Sarim

  I do believe that 2014 now come and gone, the rising tide of doubter is surfacing. Each year it seems there is an ever increasing number of memorial attendees. I cannot remember seeing a decrease in memorial attendance, ever!!
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  "the Kingdom work is expanding at an accelerated pace"

  by Londo111 in

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  2. beliefs

  if recent intel is true, there is only a .23% increase worldwide in 2015. .

  notice what is increasing is not the average publisher count, according to the above watchtower quote to spin the bethel downsizing, but the work.

  "the little one will become a thousand and the small one a mighty nation.

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  Beth Sarim

  I know. You keep hearing all the time that the Chariot or the Borg is moving so fast, you just have to keep up. Everything which is happening is just contrary to the fact.
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  Religion spoils the real truth? What are your thoughts.

  by punkofnice in

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  2. bible

  i can see how science is answering our questions.

  okay, that's a sweeping statement, but it's the best way my empty head can express it.

  i'm not sure if we're evolving as a species...that's another subject i admit to not reading about.

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  Beth Sarim

  Questioning things is looked at as Apostasy. That is why the average Joe-JW is afraid to ask questions.
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  Can you prove that WT policy of shunning is unscriptual? Will soon be discussing with somebody, give me all your ammo!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  will soon be discussing w/ somebody still in about that.

  i want to make sure i am not missing anything good.

  so any scriptures, articles whether wt articles or secular about effects of shunning, etc, or your arguments against how wt interprets their scriptures, etc.

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  Beth Sarim

  The fallacy of the shunning policy is no different than isolation and ostracism. In a way it is worse than isolation, it is public shaming which imposes much more guilt and shame on the supposed wrongdoer.
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  What is the org’s view on extraterrestrial life?

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

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  i am sure that it has been discussed before.

  but just out of curiosity, what is the orgs view on extraterrestrial life?

  the org certainly agrees that the universe is infinitely large.

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  Beth Sarim

  I don't know how much of this is believable. But I'll throw it out there. NASA has photographs of the moon which they won't release. There is evidence of photos of the moon being somehow ''brushed-out'' to cover things up. That's just what I read somewhere, not sure how much is true, if true at all, but nonetheless, interesting.
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  Hypocrisy of JW Thinking After Tragedy Like Paris

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it never has ceased to boggle my mind how twisted up jw thinking is.

  when they see something like what happened in paris, in person they will express how sad and detestable it is quickly followed by "this is why we need the kingdom, and the desert god is gonna fix everything.

  " here is where i get perplexed.

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  Events such like what just transpired in Paris the other day, JW's hypocritically get into somewhat of a ''hype''. Or an increased level of enthusiasm, despite the loss of innocent lives and countless others who have been injured. Innocent ones who were blindsided by a terrorist act, the JW's seem to be in an enlightened frame of mind they almost seem ''celebratory like.''
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  Are Jehovah’s Winesses “Fundamentalists” and “Fanatics”?

  by EdenOne in

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  2. beliefs

  recently ive posted on fb a meme where a two pairs of hands held open a bible and the quram side by side.

  then i wrote on it:.

  (faith + fundamentalism) x (hate + propaganda) = legitimation of intolerance and violence.

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  Beth Sarim

  Probably the preaching work, banning of Holidays, no association with non-Jw's, blood policy could all be categorized as fanatical and extremists of sorts.
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  Can you prove that WT policy of shunning is unscriptual? Will soon be discussing with somebody, give me all your ammo!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  will soon be discussing w/ somebody still in about that.

  i want to make sure i am not missing anything good.

  so any scriptures, articles whether wt articles or secular about effects of shunning, etc, or your arguments against how wt interprets their scriptures, etc.

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  Beth Sarim

  There's a lot of stuff not in the Bible which the Borg enforces. Maybe it's because it does not have God's backing.
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  Hypothetical Question...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  i was just thinking that the org has said lots of outrageous things over it's history and most jws just continue onward without a second thought.

  so my question is what do you think would have to be said from the platform or wt to get people to get up and walk out immediately?

  is it even possible?

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  Beth Sarim

  ''We all must be ready to obey any instructions we receive, whether they seem strategic from a human standpoint or not''

  I believe that was the November 15, 2013 edition of the WT

  What they're really saying is something along the line of ''obey every word we may say, even if it doesn't coincide with the Bible''. ''We are implementing a 10% tithing policy''. That's why I think they even snuck in the word ''tithe'' in that ''silver sword'' bible released a couple of years ago.